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In this episode Jason, Steve and Nathan discuss the statement posted on July 24, 2020 by Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church in which MacArthur explains why the elders of Grace Community Church feel compelled to defy the government of California’s order restricting corporate worship. In the course of the discussion the guys reference a response to that statement, written by Jonathan Leeman, posted on the 9Marks website on July 25, 2020.